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Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:17 am
by Absintize
The possible choose was between 44 khz and 48 khz...

I read that speaking of korg ds-10 a sample rate over the 48 khz is not good..is it true?

However I uploaded the track in soundcloud and this is the result...not bad, but it's so much better if listen through DS or Logic...why?

http://soundcloud.com/absintize/exploring-sounds

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:33 pm
by DS-10 Dominator
Absintize wrote:The possible choose was between 44 khz and 48 khz...

I read that speaking of korg ds-10 a sample rate over the 48 khz is not good..is it true?

However I uploaded the track in soundcloud and this is the result...not bad, but it's so much better if listen through DS or Logic...why?

http://soundcloud.com/absintize/exploring-sounds
For Soundcloud, I don't know the effect of different sample rates. I only know that streaming is always 128kbps MP3.

For recording in general: I'm sure DS-10 sample rate is not higher than 44KHz (and bitrate 16 bits), no need for 48KHz

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:09 pm
by QauNuckShin
DS-10 Dominator wrote:For recording in general: I'm sure DS-10 sample rate is not higher than 44KHz (and bitrate 16 bits), no need for 48KHz
We should do some testing on that. Shouldn't be too hard; just use a triangle wave to see where the signal breaks down, then figure out the approximate rate with the sampling theorem.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:06 pm
by Syscrusher
Even if the DS is 44KHz/16bit you may want to record at a higher bitrate if you plan on doing any post processing.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:46 am
by DS-10 Dominator
Today I read about a guy who claimed that a track on Soundcloud can sound different per computer, perhaps due to differing Flash versions.

So if you experience weird sound quality you could try to use the Soundcloud HTML5 player as a test...

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:46 am
by DS-10 Dominator
Syscrusher wrote:Even if the DS is 44KHz/16bit you may want to record at a higher bitrate if you plan on doing any post processing.
true

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:26 pm
by eggsample
SoundCloud quality for streaming is set to 128kbps and it's mp3.
Downloadable veriosn's bitrate is set to an original value.

http://help.soundcloud.com/customer/por ... -distorted

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:10 pm
by diemanx
Hi all! Will I be able to record sound with the DS on your computer with BEHRINGER Xenyx 502 Miher? Wiring diagram on the picture attached (whether in this way?)
PS question wrote with the help of an interpreter

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:11 am
by Decktonic
Yeah, you just need the following two cables:

1/8" stereo to dual Y 1/4" mono

RCA to 1/8" stereo

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:37 am
by DS-10 Dominator
diemanx wrote:Hi all! Will I be able to record sound with the DS on your computer with BEHRINGER Xenyx 502 Miher? Wiring diagram on the picture attached (whether in this way?)
PS question wrote with the help of an interpreter
Well why do you need the mixer? It's possible that just a cable to your computer's line in is enough.

All the rest I explained on the first page of this topic:
Recording software

Audacity is free open source software. You can also batch convert to mp3 with it, but you need to download the LAME mp3 encoder separately (also free). http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

To your computer's line-in

The first thing you can try is using a minijack to minjack cable from your DS headphone's output to your computer/laptop's line-in. The minijack cable has to be stereo, but they usually are. Also your computer's line-input has to be stereo. The main problem that can occur in this case is NOISE. Consumer line-inputs are often pretty noisy/hissy. There's not much you can do about this 'low signal to noise ratio' except turning your DS volume higher, but even then there can be strange buzzes/noises/hisses in you signal.

(You probably can't use your microphone input, since it's mono and not probably powerful enough.)

Via an audio mixer to your computers line-in

You can try to run your DS audio through a cheap audio mixer. It will boost your signal, plus you can use the equalizer to boost frequencies. But this won't necessarily solve the problems of hiss and noise, especially in the softer parts of your recordings, because you are still using your (often badly sounding) computer line-input.



You'll need a mini-stereo-jack (DS HEADPHONES OUT) to 2 x RCA or 2 x jack (MIXER LINE IN) cable. And then 2 x RCA or 2 x jack (MIXER LINE-OUT) to a mini-stero-jack (COMPUTER LINE-IN).

This thing will surely come in handy when you're going to play live shows.

(A mixer like this also features phantom power, but you can't use that on your DS headphones out signal.. or on any unbalanced signal. Phantom Power is specifically made to power certain types of microphones.)

To a usb/firewire interface

A better solution is to buy a decent usb/firewire interface. This way you bypass your computer line-input and can boost your signal.

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http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_multimix_4usb.htm

To an external (memory card) recorder

A very reliable (and portable) solution. Check out M-audio Microtrack II, Zoom H2, etc

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:06 am
by diemanx
[quote="DS-10 Dominator"]
Yes, but I'm too late to read your post, and ordered the BEHRINGER XENYX 502, obtained from this piece of iron is not good? Spent money in vain?

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:39 am
by DS-10 Dominator
It will probably be useful somehow.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:31 pm
by diemanx
Thank you all! From BEHRINGER Xenyx 502 Miher - refused. Preferred Behringer UCA 202, I think it would be better

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:01 pm
by DS-10 Dominator
diemanx wrote:Thank you all! From BEHRINGER Xenyx 502 Miher - refused. Preferred Behringer UCA 202, I think it would be better
Nice! Let us know how well it works.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:22 pm
by Noiseman
Hello :)

I'm having a bit trouble here getting a new mixer so I was thinking I could get some help here. I'll start from the beginning here. So, the power cord from my behringer xenyx 802 broke. I've been looking for replacements, but apparently they don't sell those. The option I found is to buy a new small mixer. Then I could have one small recording mixer and a larger one for performances. It's really a shame I have to stick with behringer, but I wouldn't want to leave that 802 sitting there doing nothing. Therefore, my options for the cheapest things was between the xenyx 302usb and the 502. As a home recorder for the DS, a uke, guitar and others, which would you guys recommend??

Thanks for all the help!!

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:28 am
by Grundy
Whoa, i cannot believed i read past this topic!
This is why all my tracks sounds like crap!
I think my laptops line-in is very bad.
I must now check out my local hardware store.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:41 pm
by gejm
I can also add that if you record with a jack-jack cable and a cheap soundcard, you can try to use some denoiser software, and don't forget to turn the DS volume to the max. I've checked A LOT of denoising software, and I can truly recommend iZotope's RX 2. It's not cheap, but it works excellent, and has other features than just denoising, such as linear phase EQ, declipper, declicker etc.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:07 pm
by titaniumshell
I use a behringer usb302 mixer. Very cheap and gets the job done. Record straight into garageband.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:19 pm
by titaniumshell
I have to say for wav editors nothing beats soundforge on PC. It's coming to mac soon too. I recommend the behringer 302usb as its a native USB into your computer. I have an interesting setup for my iPod touch too. You need an irig and stereo to phono cable with a 1/4 jack mono adapter as irig is mono. The headphone out on your ds is split into two channels. Input into the irig / iPod and you can record on the go. Mono only though, so skip the left to right stereo in ds10 or you'll end up with gaps in your samples.

Re: RECORDINGS -> Recording audio from DS to your computer...

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:17 am
by Syscrusher
There are many inexpensive ways to get a stereo signal into an iPad/IPhone. The same people who make the iRig (IK Multimedia i believe) have a few themselves. The iRig is a great device don't get me wrong (I used it + amplitube for a gig I did in Cuba when I couldn't bring an amplifier) but unnecessary for the purpose stated here.